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Jet was detained and murdered by cops. Just putting that out there.

For all the pixels I've seen of people getting on Azula and Zuko fans' case about enjoying characters from imperialistic nations, and how characters like Jet and Hama deserve more of everyone's sympathy, this very salient fact about Jet is often overlooked.

And to make matters worse, his reputation was forever tarnished as "crazy" because he told the truth about what he witnessed.

A key point in Azula's potential redemption...

I have talked before about how I think that humiliating and torturing Azula in the name of redemption is ineffective, unfair, cruel, barbaric, inhumane, monsterous, ect...

I go into detail about why I think that in this post, check it out if you're interested.

It has come to my attention that people believe that Azula should be abused cause Zuko also got abused and the pain and humiliation changed him. In this post I will explain why that wouldn't work for Azula.

Mainly, it's because Zuko didn't just get abused. He got abused by Ozai. And that's a major detail, because it affects what Zuko thought of that abuse.

In Fire Nation, the Fire Lord is treated like some kind of god and everyone accepts it. People suffer due to bad economy (war and all) but it's okay because it's the Firelord's will send the Firelord knows best. Zuko being abused by said Firelord is what taught him that no, the Firelord isn't always good, he abuses his fucking kids, the Firelord can go fuck himself.

Zuko hated the fact that he was being abused and therefore to an extend hated Ozai for abusing him. That hatred is what made him able to view Ozai as an imperfect, non-godly being, that could be wrong in same cases and then helped Zuko realize that he was wrong about the war.

Zuko's hatred of Ozai's abuse is basically what triggered his redemption. That method worked for him. But it wouldn't work for Azula. And here's why.

Ozai is now out of the picture.

That's it. That's the reason why. That single detail is why the idea that Azula must suffer for redemption is logically impossible. Allow me to compare the situations:

  • Zuko was abused / Azula could be abused
  • Zuko hated his abuser / Azula will hate her abuser
  • Zuko wanted to destroy his abuser / Azula will want to destroy her abuser
  • Zuko's abuser was Ozai / Azula's abuser would be the Gaang and the peaceful society
  • Zuko hated Ozai / Azula will hate the Gaang and the newfound peace
  • Zuko helped ruin Ozai / Azula will try to ruin the whole world

Azula's redemption arc isn't happening during the war or by a character we know is bad. Especially if we say it's for the sake of redemption. Logically, the people that would want to see her redeemed would be Zuko, Mai, Ty Lee, Aang and potentially the rest of the Gaang.

So while Zuko's abuse made him hate a person that should have been hated, Azula's abused will make her hate people that shouldn't.

Zuko's abuse happened by Ozai and it made him Ozai.

If Azula gets abused, it will be by the good guys and it will make her hate the good guys.

Zuko's abuse was done by evil and made him turn towards good, which caused a redemption arc.

If Azula gets abused for the sake of a redemption arc by good, it'll make her hate both the idea of redemption and good in general.

You could argue that Zuko's abuse made him good but Azula's abuse would just make her more evil and that kind of defeats the purpose of doing it for the sake of redemption

Which is why humiliating/abusing- I'm sorry, "humbling" Azula wouldn't work for her the same way it did for Zuko, it'd have the opposite effect.

Thus proven.

And kudos to @hello-nichya-here for being one of the reasons I was inspired to write this post in the first place!

And let's not forget: Another main reason for Zuko to change sides was his bond with Iroh. Someone who, despite all his flaws, was always there for him, for comfort, support and advice - even when Zuko didn't want his help. ESPECIALLY when Zuko didn't want his help, because these were the exact moments when he needed it most.

Azula doesn't need to be hurt, humiliated, abused, controlled, and/or isolated. She's someone who is there for her. Someone that will help her heal because they love her, and try to teach her be a better person both not just for the sake of the world, but also for HER sake, as this is what would give her the chance of actually having healthy relationships with others.

Azula in the finale is abandoned by her father, has no idea where her mother is, knows her sibling is now her enemy, has no friends, and is being consumed by anger, shame, and PAIN. Just like Zuko.

He had Iroh to help him through it. Is it really that hard to imagine Zuko then seeing Azula's situation, relating to it, and trying to give her the same chanceS, plural, that their uncle gave to him?

Azula doesn’t need to be hurt, humiliated, abused, controlled, and/or isolated.

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Thank. You.

I keep saying this because it’s something I rarely see addressed: The mirror scene in “Sozin’s Comet, Part 3: Inferno” proves that Azula is a child desperately crying out for help.

Her core conviction is that she’s a monster whom no one would choose to love, so she uses fear to control people instead because that is how she knows to keep them from abandoning, hurting, or betraying her.

She says so herself, “Well, what choice do I have? Trust is for fools! Fear is the only reliable way.”

She is fully aware that it’s wrong for her to do that and that it doesn’t make her happy, but she knows no other way and has no one in her life she can trust to show her a way out. What makes it harder is that everything she’s experienced in her short life has proven her absolutely right.

This is a kid who genuinely feels that she has to use fear to control others and hates herself for it. What purpose would treating her like the monster she believes herself to be serve? How is that going to teach her that her core belief about herself–that she’s a monster whom not even her own mother can love–is wrong?

Azula’s biggest hurdle to changing for the better isn’t arrogance or cruelty on her part. That’s just the surface of who she is and is mostly a defense mechanism due to trauma. Her biggest hurdle is distrust. She expects to be feared. She expects people to think of her as some inhuman thing that needs to be chained up, locked away, and kept in line with threats and punishments. What would throw her for a loop is being treated like a traumatized kid who needs friendship, trust, guidance, and care.

just a reminder - do NOT boycott streaming services or not watch new things. the unions have not called for one for a reason. for one, it affects residual payments, which as minimal as those currently are, actors are still getting them during this time, and for two, studios will use lack of viewership as an excuse to cancel shows because you are showing them there is no demand. it deeply affects the industry the writers and actors stand to come back to once the strike is over

Also: going to these places puts pressure and demand on the company. Demand they can't meet without actors and writers. That puts stress on them, and stress is good.

^^^^ive been looking for a rb with this addition because YES. if a customer wants a burger and there is no cook to make it, that puts pressure on the owner to pay the cook what they want so the customer will still give them money. if there is no customer, the owner has no reason for the cook to make burgers

Stop watching IF AND ONLY IF the unions call for a boycott. For the time being since they haven't, streaming the shows actually helps. You're not crossing a picket line to watch because that picket line does not exist unless a boycott is called for.

here's my hot take about my generation and people younger than me (I'm 22 years old)

The reason current teenagers and people in their really early 20s are conservative on accident and have such shitty takes on the internet is because our generation was much more sheltered than previous generations and because we were raised to be ok with orwellian servailence and that is 100% the fault of our parents, Reagan Era kidnapping panics, and the rise of technology all coming together to prevent us from doing the sketchy shit that sends parents into panic mode but which is also completely fundemental to childhood development. If your parents had even a crumb of money to their name and even a shred of free time they started tracking your phone as soon as it was possible to. I did not experience this because my parents are actively trying to live like it's the 1990s and still have not gotten cell phones of their own, and did not let me have one until I was 18 years old and it was no longer their choice, but literally over half of my friends in middle and high school had their phones tracked by their parents at some point or other, and we would occasionally find this out, not because their parents told them, but when we were trying to do the aforementioned sketchy shit and their parent's car would pull up. And I would, like a reasonable person after finding this out, encourage my friends to just leave their phones at home, and their response would be "What if I get kidnapped" or "My parents are just trying to keep me safe"

This in my estimation has lead to a combination of kids being terminally online because they do have internet access and are better at deleting search history than their parents think they are, but don't have the freedom to go out and do shit without their parents' knowledge or consent, so they have the most privacy from the people who control their lives while they're on the internet, and kids not having the real world experiences they should have, not knowing how to connect with other people irl, not feeling comfortable leaving the house because of the horror story lies their parents told them to make them ok with the surveillance they were inflicting on their kids. Kids these days are growing up in the fucking panopticon when they should be out in the woods playing with knives or stealing cigarettes from their older sibling and going out to an empty parking lot to smoke them or whatever and that shit is sticking with them into adulthood. Things that were "tee hee we could get in trouble isn't this so fun and daring" in the 1990s and 2000s have become in the 2010s and 2020s things that are "If I do that without texting my parents some sort of lie to excuse where my location is my parent's car will pull up and I will get grounded for the next two weeks."

Like even when I was 19 I had a 16 year old friend who would volunteer their time at a food shelf and that's how we knew each other. We would talk about dungeons and dragons together, and the game store was 4 blocks from the food shelf. One day we left the food shelf earlier than they had told their parents they would and they got punished for that. We were literally just going to look at dungeons and dragons miniatures and dice, which was self evident if you could see where we started and how far we walked and where too. I have to assume that this isn't uncommon. It's wrong, but it's not uncommon.

Ok it has become apparent to me that people do not understand what I mean by conservative on accident.

Nobody my age is voting republican. Let's be clear on that. With the exception of a small minority of gamer gaters and people who were raised in actual cults most people my age are either commies or good liberals who votes straight blue down the ticket. This is because of the greta thunberg effect. We're all afraid of dying of thirst because there's no water anymore at the age of 35. Wealthy white children are no longer safe with the republican party which has become less of a political party and more of a death cult, and white children are less wealthy than they used to be (I specify white because POC by in large never voted for the party of the southern strategy for obvious reasons). We as a generation are so insanely blue that they're trying to raise the voting age to 25 about it.

This liberalism and party affiliation doesn't preclude them from being conservative on accident. What I mean by that is... Well

No kink at pride is a great example. The assumption that pride should exist at all makes them think that they're immune to conservative logic but they're still trying to enforce a dominant ideology onto a minority group. That person who made the tweet about how you shouldn't have sex in houses where there are children in the other room and if you can't avoid it you're a sex addict. That's a great example of like straight up puritanism coming out of the mouth of someone who proports themselves to be a leftist

If you ever see a discourse that feels like an obvious psyop as an adult and you can't understand why these supposed leftist youths are falling for it it's because that kid has never had sex in the woods and had to try to buy plan b under their parent's nose. My generation is dumb about sex. We're dumb about drugs. We're dumb about theft. We moralize literally everything. We're so dumb about stranger danger that we never learned how to community organize so while the vast vast majority of us are crushed by existential dread about debt and climate change but we never do anything about it because we just don't know how to organize because we're raised to see everyone else as a threat and we never went to or organized parties as teens because our parents would always know and stop us.

They managed to invent a generation that hates capitalism but fully buys into individualism and who is supportive of queer people and way less monogamous than previous generations but who still buys into the base assumptions of the nuclear family and thinks sex is evil. The levels of politics going on here are way weirder and stupider and more complicated than "young people vote republican and watch Fox news"

I've never seen anybody explain it so well

Queer respectability discourse is as old as dirt and did not come about with 19 yr olds on social media. These things go in cycles. Periods of openness and progress are always followed by a backlash and pushing of conservative values and norms. I say all of this not to discredit OP, but to place what they said in greater context.

That said, like every post on this issue, it’s missing one very simple and critical factor because they are too young to know about it:

abstinence only education.

those of us in the US who were teens and young adults in the 90s remember a new era of frankness about sex and sexuality that probably rivaled the 60s, except our generation was coming of age in the era of HIV/AIDS. We watched Pedro Zamora on The Real World. We listened to TLC sing about female pleasure and saw Left Eye on stage wearing a condom over her eye. Ellen coming out made the front page of Time Magazine. And so on.

the backlash to all of this from conservative politicians was batshit insane. The Dubya era saw a massive push toward conservatives taking over school boards and focusing on dismantling comprehensive sex education. “Abstinence only” curricula quite literally written by reactionary right wing evangelical orgs was pushed very heavily in the 2000s and the generation who was raised on that shit is old enough to be online yelling about leatherfolk at pride. it’s really very easy to anyone who is familiar with evangelical rhetoric about sex and sexuality to connect those dots. it’s not weird at all actually, it very much tracks. the pride stuff in particular is right out of homophobic Religious Right propaganda, because that specific worldview informed public education about sex and sexuality for an entire generation and they’re totally ignorant to it

and the awful thing about that kind of brainwashing is that it’s extremely insidious. you have to really actively do the work to unlearn and recover from it. but to do that you have to know you’ve been brainwashed in the first place. and these kids don’t. they may reject the most obvious bullshit but don’t get to the roots of it and so they parrot James Dobson rhetoric without thinking

here's my hot take about my generation and people younger than me (I'm 22 years old)

The reason current teenagers and people in their really early 20s are conservative on accident and have such shitty takes on the internet is because our generation was much more sheltered than previous generations and because we were raised to be ok with orwellian servailence and that is 100% the fault of our parents, Reagan Era kidnapping panics, and the rise of technology all coming together to prevent us from doing the sketchy shit that sends parents into panic mode but which is also completely fundemental to childhood development. If your parents had even a crumb of money to their name and even a shred of free time they started tracking your phone as soon as it was possible to. I did not experience this because my parents are actively trying to live like it's the 1990s and still have not gotten cell phones of their own, and did not let me have one until I was 18 years old and it was no longer their choice, but literally over half of my friends in middle and high school had their phones tracked by their parents at some point or other, and we would occasionally find this out, not because their parents told them, but when we were trying to do the aforementioned sketchy shit and their parent's car would pull up. And I would, like a reasonable person after finding this out, encourage my friends to just leave their phones at home, and their response would be "What if I get kidnapped" or "My parents are just trying to keep me safe"

This in my estimation has lead to a combination of kids being terminally online because they do have internet access and are better at deleting search history than their parents think they are, but don't have the freedom to go out and do shit without their parents' knowledge or consent, so they have the most privacy from the people who control their lives while they're on the internet, and kids not having the real world experiences they should have, not knowing how to connect with other people irl, not feeling comfortable leaving the house because of the horror story lies their parents told them to make them ok with the surveillance they were inflicting on their kids. Kids these days are growing up in the fucking panopticon when they should be out in the woods playing with knives or stealing cigarettes from their older sibling and going out to an empty parking lot to smoke them or whatever and that shit is sticking with them into adulthood. Things that were "tee hee we could get in trouble isn't this so fun and daring" in the 1990s and 2000s have become in the 2010s and 2020s things that are "If I do that without texting my parents some sort of lie to excuse where my location is my parent's car will pull up and I will get grounded for the next two weeks."

Like even when I was 19 I had a 16 year old friend who would volunteer their time at a food shelf and that's how we knew each other. We would talk about dungeons and dragons together, and the game store was 4 blocks from the food shelf. One day we left the food shelf earlier than they had told their parents they would and they got punished for that. We were literally just going to look at dungeons and dragons miniatures and dice, which was self evident if you could see where we started and how far we walked and where too. I have to assume that this isn't uncommon. It's wrong, but it's not uncommon.

Ok it has become apparent to me that people do not understand what I mean by conservative on accident.

Nobody my age is voting republican. Let's be clear on that. With the exception of a small minority of gamer gaters and people who were raised in actual cults most people my age are either commies or good liberals who votes straight blue down the ticket. This is because of the greta thunberg effect. We're all afraid of dying of thirst because there's no water anymore at the age of 35. Wealthy white children are no longer safe with the republican party which has become less of a political party and more of a death cult, and white children are less wealthy than they used to be (I specify white because POC by in large never voted for the party of the southern strategy for obvious reasons). We as a generation are so insanely blue that they're trying to raise the voting age to 25 about it.

This liberalism and party affiliation doesn't preclude them from being conservative on accident. What I mean by that is... Well

No kink at pride is a great example. The assumption that pride should exist at all makes them think that they're immune to conservative logic but they're still trying to enforce a dominant ideology onto a minority group. That person who made the tweet about how you shouldn't have sex in houses where there are children in the other room and if you can't avoid it you're a sex addict. That's a great example of like straight up puritanism coming out of the mouth of someone who proports themselves to be a leftist

If you ever see a discourse that feels like an obvious psyop as an adult and you can't understand why these supposed leftist youths are falling for it it's because that kid has never had sex in the woods and had to try to buy plan b under their parent's nose. My generation is dumb about sex. We're dumb about drugs. We're dumb about theft. We moralize literally everything. We're so dumb about stranger danger that we never learned how to community organize so while the vast vast majority of us are crushed by existential dread about debt and climate change but we never do anything about it because we just don't know how to organize because we're raised to see everyone else as a threat and we never went to or organized parties as teens because our parents would always know and stop us.

They managed to invent a generation that hates capitalism but fully buys into individualism and who is supportive of queer people and way less monogamous than previous generations but who still buys into the base assumptions of the nuclear family and thinks sex is evil. The levels of politics going on here are way weirder and stupider and more complicated than "young people vote republican and watch Fox news"

I've never seen anybody explain it so well

Zuko on seeing Azula again after not seeing her for 3 years(”The Avatar State”):


(The camera pans out, revealing Azula at a table in the foreground, her hand on a seashell. Cut to Zuko and Iroh, who look surprised, and then angry. Zuko steps forward.)

Zuko: (accusingly) What are you doing here?

(Cut back to Azula. The camera looks up at her from below. She seems utterly unaffected by their glares. She toys with the seashell in her hand.)

Azula: (arrogantly) In my country, we exchange a pleasant ‘hello’ before asking questions. (She gets up and walks over to face Zuko.) Have you become uncivilized so soon, Zuzu?
Zuko: (furiously) Don’t call me that!
Iroh: To what do we owe this honor?

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He’s instantly angry, hostile, and resentful, expressing zero pleasure at seeing her again, zero affection toward her, and zero interest in her wellbeing(Iroh reacts very similarly).

Mai upon seeing Azula again after not seeing her for a year or two(”Return to Omashu”):

(Cut to a shot of several Fire Nation guards carrying Azula’s litter on their shoulder through one of Omashu’s plazas. Cut to a profile view of Azula sitting in her litter. Cut to a short, pan right still of Mai standing at the foot of a large, white staircase, then cut to an overhead shot of the guards lowering the litter to the ground in front of Mai. Azula gets out walks over to Mai, joined quickly by Ty Lee.)

Mai: (bowing, speaking in a dull voice) Please tell me you’re here to kill me.

(Cut to a close up of Mai, who looks up slightly and smiles. Cut back to a wider shot of the three as Mai and Azula begin to laugh.)

Azula: (hugging Mai) It’s great to see you, Mai.

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She smiles, is at ease, cracks an affectionate joke, hugs Azula in a very Mai fashion, and is very clearly happy to see her friend again.

Yet somehow 95% of the fandom is convinced that Zuko cares about, loves, and likes Azula more than Mai does, when by all appearances it’s the other way around. 

Nothing pisses me off more than seeing Mai being depicted as more Anti-Azula than Zuko.

Zuko who watched his sister almost plummet to her death and was pissed off that she managed to use her far more superior bending skills (go and argue with you ancestors you know it’s true) to rescue herself.

Zuko who showed less sympathy when his little sister broke down than Katara who has all the more reason to hate Azula.

That’s the person who’s supposed to like Azula more?

Mai is absolutely justified in her anger at Azula. Azula had changed a lot from the girl she was as a child and although she was still her friend she adopted more of Ozai’s personality which would obviously create friction. Mai does not hate Azula. She just doesn’t fear her and refuses to be bullied or controlled. Especially by someone who is supposed to be a loved one or friend. And Mai would definitely not be someone to judge Azula for her morality because they both believe in the Imperialist goals of the Fire Nation. Mai was the first person we see berate Zuko for betraying his country. Mai!! She didn’t help Zuko because she suddenly believed his aims were right. She did it because despite it all she cared for him and didn’t want his dumbass to die. You think the girl who helped Azula subjugate Ba Sing Se cares about the Fire Nations actions? You think a noble with a father who is influential enough to be appointed Governor of a colony has ever been exposed to the rest of the world enough to spark introspective thought on a war she couldn’t give two shits about. Why are people so stupid.

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Anyways like. I’m not really feeling the conversation about “traditional Jewish features.” Because. What.

1. Every time someone tries to list what these features are they come across pretty sus

2. Not all Jews have the same physical features, even within regional groups. My great grandfather was 100% Ashki and he was blonde with blue eyes.

3. I very rarely use looks as a way to spot other Jews in the wild. It’s not as relevant as people think.

4. We are in an era where Hollywood has decided that non-Jews “look” more Jewish than some actual Jews.

If you put Katerina McCrimmon in front of me and asked me if she was Jewish my response would probably be “maybe? I don’t know.”

Because this is not about looks. The issue is more about authentic representation of a cultural and ethnoreligious group. A non jew doesn’t know what it *feels* like to be Jewish. That’s what I’m thinking about.

Anonymous asked:

i’ve been seeing jewish people who say Lilith is open. Also what if someone’s referring to pop culture Lilith in their eclectic neoreligion as I often see in these spaces? not that i’ve seen that, but i’ve seen people in spiritual pop culture spaces tie characters to historic entities maybe out of association or affection, idk. personal most likely. but what about when the figure is like Lilith? idk im confused

Hi. So, first off, there will always always be someone within a closed culture telling you that it’s open*. And, even if a ton of Jews say they don’t care, there will always be just as many or more begging you** to stay away from our closed culture that we’ve been killed and raped and genocided for trying to practice for thousands of years. If you only listen to the Jews that say what you want to hear, and don’t listen to anyone else, it means you don’t actually care about Jews and only about what you want. Think about how, by interacting with Judaism, a non-Jew gets to have all the fun they want and go unharmed, while even just a few days ago a Jew was stabbed in the street just because he answered “yes” when asked if he was a Jew.

Secondly, these pop-culture versions of Lilith are an example of part of a culture being stolen, erased, and turned into an empty vessel for entertainment. This has actually happened an extreme amount of times with endless amounts of highly sacred Jewish ideas. Also, there’s a big difference between pop-culture figures just happening to have the name “Lilith” and actually trying to be Lilith. It would still not be okay to interact with the Kabbalah just because it appears in your favorite comic book, or interact with a figure from any other closed practice just because they were also in a comic book.

If a figure is “like” Lilith, I mean, I’m not sure what you mean (but I will answer this in the next paragraph). Goyim*** who work with her seem to consistently do so because she was the “first wife of Adam who defied Gd”. And that’s a problem because that’s not even the true story. They’re taking that narrative from an old Jewish work (the Alphabet of Ben Sirach) that was meant to be a joke, which literally talks about farting and pissing in its other stories. It says Lilith was mad pretty literally because she couldn’t be “on top of Adam”. And yes, that is the exact origin of that “Lilith was the first woman” story. When you look at actual Jewish (most often Ashkenazi) folklore and Jewish texts, Lilith was never a human being. She was, first, not even one entity, but a category of baby-killing and raping demons. Then she became a singular entity who was the personification of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. So, right off the bat, everything they worship about Lilith comes from their fundamental misunderstanding of what Lilith even is. This stems from the fact that they are not Jewish and will be making these incorrect and ignorant assumptions, therefore continuing to erase actual Jewish ideas and proving a million times over that people working with cultures closed to them will consistently get everything about them wrong because they don’t understand a culture that was never theirs.

If someone wants to work with a hot sexy feminist demon or other dark figure that actually stands for female liberation, just go to open practices! Look at Lamia, or Inanna, or Ereshkigal, or Nyx, or Rashoon, or Tezrian, or Delepitoré. Those all actually fit what they think they’re getting in Lilith, those are “like” this idea of Lilith that people have and are open. But they go after Lilith anyway, just because they hate being given a boundary and told that they just shouldn’t touch a culture that is not theirs.

* In my experience, Jews (who say Lilith is open) whom I have interacted with have, in every instance, not actually known the true story of Lilith or were fully educated on her actual narrative. Not saying they don’t exist, but this is my experience, and I think that says something.

** I’m using “you” here a lot but I’m not specifically accusing you of anything. I’m using “you” to denote non-Jewish Lilith appropriators.

*** “Goy”/“goyim” is a Yiddish word for non-Jews.

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